William bell Rogerson born 1798 dublin death april 1877 Bangor

[anneelaine]

can anyone help please!!
 Trying to find out about William Bell Rogerson born 1798 cannot find out what part off dublin!!   he was born  in
His death was in bangor in april 1877 Bangor but cannot find a grave anywere
 His wife was a Mary Anne Jones was born 1837@ Llangefni  Anglesey her death was in 1929 age 92,  
 I think her father was call Owen Jones and her mother was i think Anne Jones it would be nice to find a family Grave somewere.
anyhelp please,
 thanks
ANNEELAINE

[anneelaine]

Also just found out his death was in Bethesda but it was put down as Bangor on the 28 april 1877, William Bell Rogerson
thanks Anneelaine

[Admin (Matt)]

There are references to him around I haven't found much linking him to Bangor (Nothing in the North Wales Chronicle - death notices etc) yet...


Belfast News-Letter - Friday 12 December 1834


Birmingham Gazette - Monday 19 January 1835


 (London Gazette Issue 21882 published on the 9 May 1856)

[Admin (Matt)]

There is a list produced by Gwynedd Family History Society covering the main burial ground in Bangor, but I don't have a copy yet.

Where have you tried?

Mary Anne Jones 15yo born Llangefni shows as a pauper in 1851 with Owen and Anne PRITCHARD who maybe adopted her into their care? they were only agricultural labourers so she wasn't a 'servant'.

Owen Prichard 61
Anne Prichard 60
Mary Anne Jones 15

The trail to her being married to William and about Bangor is still cold..

[anneelaine]

Hello William bell came to live in a round Bangor in about 1873
I have put it on roots chat and no one can find a grave at all
his death was in Bangor so he must be some were but someone said maybe its a unmarked grave
Anneelaine

[Admin (Matt)]

From what I understand there are 3 sites in the village and numerous others dotted about the nearby villages. Coetmor is administered by Gwynedd County Council all the others (unless in Bangor - Glanadda Cemetery, Bangor or New Cemetery, Bangor) would come under various village/community councils.  There is also a risk given his short period there that he may have been taken to rest elsewhere.

Map of all 3 here

In Bethesda:

Bethesda Churchyard


Coetmor (is fairly new - postdates the death)
http://www.gwynedd.gov.uk/gwy_doc.asp?doc=23237&Language=1&p=1&c=1 

Abandoned graveyard in Parc Meurig
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/348185
(c1889)

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=218340075256671417412.0004d2b1f3ba7292ac886&msa=0

[anneelaine]

Hello.
I am thinking maybe that could be Mary Jones daughter she was in Liverpool 1871, called Mary Ann Jones She was born in about 1856 .so why would she go to stay with her !! if she was not her mother!!
she did have a daughter with William Bell called Mary Ann Rogerson born liverpool 1873 death was 1944 Llangefni
Mary Jones was  born about 1836   she was William bell  Rogerson Servant in Liverpool before she married him around 1872 /3 and moved back to wales around Bangor
 William Bell passed away 1877 in Bethesda Bangor
will take a look into who  Owen Prichard and anne
  i'v never hear off them
Thanks Anneelaine.

[anneelaine]

THANKS FOR THE INFO Great help.
Anneelaine

[anneelaine]

I can see what you are saying now .
Mmmm i got her down as father Owen Jones and mother Anne Jones o dear
thanks for that
some think to make me think now.
anneelaine

[Admin (Matt)]

I've had a speculative look at the Bethesda Church ground, it's far bigger than Street View suggests. I'm not sure what records they keep to assist. 20 minutes wondering about didn't find the grave but as you said there are plenty of plain RIP's, no headstones and headstones with worn inscriptions.

Rear of the site

[David Price]

A search of the Findmypast website shows that a William Rogerson  of Bethesda was buried at Llangwyllog, Anglesey in 1877.

[Admin (Matt)]

I see from another forum now that someone else with a copy of the Gwynedd Family History Society Memorial Inscriptions Book for Saint Cwyllog Church, Llangwyllog found no mention of William.

[David Price]

His burial is definitely recorded in Llangwyllog parish register. I've also checked the GFHS monumental inscriptions and there's no trace of Wm. Rogerson.  The gravestone may have disappeared or it may be that he never had one.

[David Price]

[anneelaine]

Thank you for finding this for me

Is there only 1 church in the village? when I go  to see the church

thanks Anneelaine  Rogerson-Howard

 

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[anneelaine]

Hello Thanks for every think you have done.

do you know if any other Rogerson are in the graveyard there thanks

Annelaine

 

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His burial is definitely recorded in Llangwyllog parish register. I've also checked the GFHS monumental inscriptions and there's no trace of Wm. Rogerson.  The gravestone may have disappeared or it may be that he never had one.

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[David Price]

 It seems that the churchyard was the only graveyard in Llangwyllog parish, and there are no Rogersons recorded there.  Do you know where WR's widow died?  He might be commemorated on her gravestone.

[anneelaine]

HELLO Will try and find out were Mary  Rogerson was put to rest Thanks Anneelaine     -------Original Message-------   From: [hidden email] Date: 10/01/2013 11:57:10 To: [hidden email] Subject: RE: William bell Rogerson born 1798 dublin death april 1877 Bangor    It seems that the churchyard was the only graveyard in Llangwyllog parish, and there are no Rogersons recorded there.  Do you know where WR's widow died?  He might be commemorated on her gravestone. If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://bangor-civic-society-message-board-forum.2217623.n2.nabble.com/William-bell-Rogerson-born-1798-dublin-death-april-1877-Bangor-tp7572702p7572718.html To unsubscribe from William bell Rogerson born 1798 dublin death april 1877 Bangor, click here. NAML

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[anneelaine]

Hello just found a baptism docket for Mary Jones dated Oct 2nd 1837 father Owen Jones mother Ann Jones

 It looks Llkellaudrygow and bodwrog anglesey witness by Sam Jones it looks like the vicar was hewzy griffith

any help were would this church be is there a grave yard? thanks would love any help.

Anneelaine

There is a address it looks like yz efaih newydd!!

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 It seems that the churchyard was the only graveyard in Llangwyllog parish, and there are no Rogersons recorded there.  Do you know where WR's widow died?  He might be commemorated on her gravestone.

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[anneelaine]

Hello again 

 About Mary Jones ,

Just looked at the docket again it looks like this is a copy dated 19 Dec 1910 So that's the name i should think Sam Jones of the witness in 1910 maybe

Anneelaine thank you

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